SeattleSoccerTalk.com
« Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 21, 2009, 10:37am




SeattleSoccerTalk.com :: Seattle Soccer Talk :: Seattle Sounders FC :: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Page 3 of 4 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread][Send Topic To Friend] [Print]
[poll] PollPoll Question: WHich name are you voting for?
Poll Status:
 Results for this poll are hidden until you vote.

Poll Options:
 You must be logged in to vote in this poll.
Seattle Alliance-
Seattle FC-
Seattle Republic-

Poll Totals:
 Total Votes: 71
Total Voters: 71
 AuthorTopic: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll (Read 1,811 times)
sounder4life
Forum Moderator
*****
member is offline





Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,504
Location: North Sound Ultra
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #30 on Mar 21, 2008, 9:30am »

Yes we can disagree.But please, allow me to retort...

People in Seattle have not embraced the current USL Sounders for a number of reasons.
I think the biggest two reasons are the serious lack of any real marketing effort, and the complete and utter failure to connect with the urban community in the region.
Sure, they went out of their way for the Youth Teams, which is great. However, they did absolutely nothing to appeal to the 18 - 35 year old soccer fans in the area.

It looks like they are off to a great start with this MLS club as well... ::)


Well, I don't know how much marketing one can do for what is essentially a minor-league team in a niche sport that had only 3,000 fans per game showing up. Where exactly would the money for that come from? If I were an owner, I sincerely doubt I'd put a whole lot of money into something that most likely won't give me much of a return. Especially if my eye was on the big prize - MLS.


The old Return of Investment argument. Like we have not heard that one a million times. I have been to almost every home match in the past few years. When they even bothered to do any marketing, the crowds doubled. One of the reasons they only averaged 3K a match was because many people did not know there was even a team to support


It is your opinion that it is a good idea to emulate the Euros.Why so? Does it all of a sudden make the MLS more legitimate?
Does having every other team named "City Name FC" mean that we are for real?
The Sounders name should of been on the ballot.
If it failed, so be it.
That is the main issue here.


Yes, that's my opinion. Obviously, you don't agree and I won't try to convince you otherwise. And for the record, I did say in my post that the Sounders name should have been included in the ballot.

No I don't agree. And yes, we do agree that the Sounders name should of been on the poll.

You know, I really couldn't give two shits about what some European club is called.You know why? It's not my club!
If England started a baseball league and named them like their other sports teams, well then good on them.
Who am I to care what happens on their side of the pond when it comes to sports.


Fine. But if you don't care what the Euros think, why lace your words with British colloquialisms like "Good on them?" Why do we often see the word "pitch" or "squad" on this forum instead of "field" and "team." Most likely because we know soccer is their game and we respect tradition enough to use the proper terminology.

Anyhoo, off to do some work. Nice chatting with you blokes though. You're all fine chaps, really, good on all of ya...

:P

I'm sorry, but now you are just being a smart ass. I don't think my vocabulary has anything to do with how Euro teams name their clubs.


« Last Edit: Mar 21, 2008, 9:30am by sounder4life »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
h
Forum Moderator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: May 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,543
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #31 on Mar 21, 2008, 9:32am »

To be fair to Anderson, the team had already essentially folded when the bought it. Without a buyer (and no one else was in the picture), there wouldn't have been an '83 season. Of course, in retrospect, it was a fiasco, but he meant well enough.

H.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

"Hell is other people"--Jean-Paul Sartre/No Exit
infromtheeast33
Puget Sounder
*
member is offline





Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 8
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #32 on Mar 21, 2008, 9:55am »


I'm sorry, but now you are just being a smart ass. I don't think my vocabulary has anything to do with how Euro teams name their clubs.

OK, you got me there. I was being a smart ass. What can I say? It happens... :-X Excuse me, will you, eh, wot wot? ;D

Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
soundersROCK
Blue and Green
***
member is offline

[avatar]

Sounders Saved - Sounders FC 2009


[homepage]

Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 110
Location: WOODINVILLE, WA
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #33 on Mar 21, 2008, 10:42am »


Mar 20, 2008, 7:05pm, soundersROCK wrote:
Seriously though:

Seattle Republic in a Democratic State/City? I'll only vote for this if the uniforms are revolutionary war era military style, triangle hats and all. Also, "Democracy in Sports?" Really it should read "Ologarchy in Sports" and the name should correlate with that. Maybe we could call them the "Bush Republicans"

Seattle FC:
Quote:
we believe the MLS Seattle team should be about where we are headed tomorrow
Let's get real! I guess in our ologarchy future we'll just all be the same soccer drones: Toronto FC, Seattle FC, Philly FC, P-Ville FC, where does it end?

Seattle Alliance: Anybody hear the Darth Vader theme when you say that? And who is the Empire? (or, emporer...Oh I guess that's double-talk Garber). I swear I'll bust out laughing if the crest has either and X or a H through it (you know x-wing fighter and tie-fighter). Although, I guess we could nickname the lads the "blasters!" and the marching band could wear stormtrooper uniforms. Good for laser shows too.

Focus groups or no focus groups these ideas are just dumb. If Mr Roth, Carey, Leiweke, and even Adrian (thanks Adrian for standing up for us, sorry you lost the battle) want to enter MLS as a joke like the Clash, the Wiz, the Mutiny, and the Fusion (which by the way none of these names exist anymore, except for the Wizards, but they still changed the name) than I guess it's their millions to be thrown away.

I'm just a lowly 25+ year supporter that has invested quite a bit of time, money, and energy into the soccer history in Seattle. I guess that means absolutely nothing though.


Now that I have had some sleep and can reflect on my feelings from yesterday I now see the truth.

Emporer Garber want us to either join the empire (Republic) or be just a group of soccer clones (FC, futbol clones), or we are the rebel alliance (if we're not for them, than we are against them).

Maybe, just maybe Mr. (Hollywood) Roth has a George Lucas connection and its gone to Emporer Garbers head (helmet).

May the Force be with us!

Hey there's a name:
Seattle Force
(nah too many Star Wars referrences)
« Last Edit: Mar 21, 2008, 10:45am by soundersROCK »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

http://soccerseattlestyle.com

Wear your scarves, wear your hats and kits. But most of all: Wave your colors.
knuckles
Forum Moderator
*****
member is offline





Joined: Jul 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,421
Location: Just behind you...
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #34 on Mar 21, 2008, 11:35am »

Why is everyone so worried? Clearly the "choices" have been stacked in order to have the team be named "Seattle FC". If that happens, just call them the Sounders. Everyone wins.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Knuckles might fall from a tall building, he might roll a brand new car...
ericgi
Forum Moderator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Sir Drinksalot



Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,003
Location: Snohomish, WA
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #35 on Mar 21, 2008, 12:13pm »

What is it with MLS that they're trying to force "Alliance" down every expansion team's throat? First it was SLC, now us, and probably Philly when their time comes.

Get a clue MLS
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Emerald City Supporters - http://www.weareecs.com

h
Forum Moderator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: May 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,543
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #36 on Mar 21, 2008, 12:15pm »

Alliance makes sense for the premier program, as it is an alliance of *several* teams, kinda sorta. But an alliance of one team? Dumb.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

"Hell is other people"--Jean-Paul Sartre/No Exit
ericgi
Forum Moderator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Sir Drinksalot



Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,003
Location: Snohomish, WA
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #37 on Mar 21, 2008, 12:18pm »

They've been watching too many "Army of one" adverts on telly
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Emerald City Supporters - http://www.weareecs.com

GS-1
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]


[homepage]

Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,461
Location: The Sound of Soccer
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #38 on Mar 21, 2008, 12:39pm »

Here's a poll some of you might like better:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/134826.asp?source=rss
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

www.SeattleSoccerExaminer.com
happyjoe
Sounder Junkie
****
member is offline





Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 449
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #39 on Mar 21, 2008, 12:57pm »

I cant find a good e-mail address for MLS, but we can always call...

Major League Soccer
420 5th Avenue, 7th Floor
New York, NY 10018
Phone: (212) 450-1200

the number is MLS and SUM, a recording answers and there is a staff directory... type in 4272 and you are sent to Garber's voicemail box....
212 450 1259 is the phone number for his assistant Cynthia.

I just called and left Mr. Garber a message, I suggest you do the same.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
GS-1
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]


[homepage]

Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,461
Location: The Sound of Soccer
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #40 on Mar 21, 2008, 1:15pm »

FC running away with P-I poll:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/134808.asp
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

www.SeattleSoccerExaminer.com
emmettoconnell
Seattle Soccer Star
**
member is offline

[avatar]


[homepage]

Joined: Jun 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 70
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #41 on Mar 21, 2008, 6:49pm »


Mar 20, 2008, 7:05pm, soundersROCK wrote:
Seriously though:

Seattle Republic in a Democratic State/City? I'll only vote for this if the uniforms are revolutionary war era military style, triangle hats and all. Also, "Democracy in Sports?" Really it should read "Ologarchy in Sports" and the name should correlate with that. Maybe we could call them the "Bush Republicans"


I'm absolutely sure that they mean "republic" like Plato's Republic and not "Republican," like "Karl Rove's Republicans," sort of implying that the planned fan involvement scheme for the club democratizes the organization, making it a "republic" of sorts.

In the sense of direct fan involvement of management of the club, Seattle Republic makes sense. Lacking a decent alternative, I'm voting for Seattle Republic.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Supporters in the South Sound
Puget's Crew
http://pugetscrew.ning.com/
farpost
Blue and Green
***
member is offline





Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 188
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #42 on Mar 21, 2008, 7:15pm »


Mar 21, 2008, 6:49pm, emmettoconnell wrote:

Mar 20, 2008, 7:05pm, soundersROCK wrote:
Seriously though:

Seattle Republic in a Democratic State/City? I'll only vote for this if the uniforms are revolutionary war era military style, triangle hats and all. Also, "Democracy in Sports?" Really it should read "Ologarchy in Sports" and the name should correlate with that. Maybe we could call them the "Bush Republicans"


I'm absolutely sure that they mean "republic" like Plato's Republic and not "Republican," like "Karl Rove's Republicans," sort of implying that the planned fan involvement scheme for the club democratizes the organization, making it a "republic" of sorts.

In the sense of direct fan involvement of management of the club, Seattle Republic makes sense. Lacking a decent alternative, I'm voting for Seattle Republic.


Yeah, yeah, we understand the Republic part, but, it remains to be seen how far they will take the direct fan involvement, and how effective it will be for the fans. Let's say Hanauer gets "voted" out as Manager, as an owner don't you think he will still have extensive involvement with the club and his opinion still carry the same weight? IMO this Barcelona thing is just PR and will not really affect how the club is run. If they really cared about what he fans had to say we would not be in position we are in today.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
emmettoconnell
Seattle Soccer Star
**
member is offline

[avatar]


[homepage]

Joined: Jun 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 70
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #43 on Mar 21, 2008, 7:22pm »


Mar 21, 2008, 7:15pm, farpost wrote:
IMO this Barcelona thing is just PR and will not really affect how the club is run. If they really cared about what he fans had to say we would not be in position we are in today.


If they really cared what the fans had to say, they'd sell us a stake in the team.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

Supporters in the South Sound
Puget's Crew
http://pugetscrew.ning.com/
GS-1
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]


[homepage]

Joined: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,461
Location: The Sound of Soccer
 Re: Vote in our MLS Name Pre-Poll
« Reply #44 on Mar 23, 2008, 7:19pm »

Over on WPS the kiddos are giving "Republic" some love:
http://washingtonpremiersoccer.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7556&start=40
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

www.SeattleSoccerExaminer.com
« Page 3 of 4 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread][Send Topic To Friend] [Print]


SeattleTeams.com

Google
Webgoalseattle1.proboards.com
Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free


This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards
Get Your Own Free Message Boards & Free Forums!