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Yeah, Field Turf?!? « Thread Started on Feb 22, 2009, 6:26pm »
I read that Montero's brace against Vancouver should give him confidence on the field turf, which made me think of something.
In high school, we played on a TERRIBLE turf pitch. The ball bounced too much, skipped across too quickly, passes flew and shots on the ground were much quicker for keepers to deal with.
Our team got used to it and had a massive home field advantage as a result, as teams who played on grass had about 30 minutes to get used to the turf before being thrown to the wolves.
It dawns on me that if the ball plays differently on the turf then it could play to Sounders FC advantage as our guys learn to use it to our advangtage.
Therefore, the question is . . . will the Qwest field turf help Sounders FC?
p.s. I know there was a similar thread earlier, but it's down there a ways and I'm too lazy to go find it
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Re: Yeah, Field Turf?!? « Reply #3 on Feb 22, 2009, 6:32pm »
I voted "No Difference" because "Minor to Negligible Advantage" wasn't an option. Everybody keeps talking about the high quality of the Qwest pitch and how well it plays. To me that translates as the pitch playing in a consistent, predictable fashion that mimics the experience of playing on a well-maintained grass field. If that's the case, then it should be pretty easy for opposing teams to get used to.
I voted "No Difference" because "Minor to Negligible Advantage" wasn't an option. Everybody keeps talking about the high quality of the Qwest pitch and how well it plays. To me that translates as the pitch playing in a consistent, predictable fashion that mimics the experience of playing on a well-maintained grass field. If that's the case, then it should be pretty easy for opposing teams to get used to.
Bad astro, so there wouldn't be the same difference, but it's still not grass. Pop Keeney if you're familiar with the Eastside.
They've put FieldTurf in most of the HS stadiums in King county (Renton Stadium being one of the few I can think of with Astro) but Qwest's turf is much much better in comparison.
Bad astro, so there wouldn't be the same difference, but it's still not grass. Pop Keeney if you're familiar with the Eastside.
They've put FieldTurf in most of the HS stadiums in King county (Renton Stadium being one of the few I can think of with Astro) but Qwest's turf is much much better in comparison.
I had a chance to play on Qwests turf for a couple of hours in the fall. It played a lot more like grass than anything I have played on.
The quality is much better than some of the best turf fields that I have played on in the area. There may be a subtle advantage, but I don't think it is going to be huge.
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Re: Yeah, Field Turf?!? « Reply #8 on Feb 23, 2009, 1:12am »
I think there maybe a small advantage especially if Sounders string a few wins together and a Manager moans about the pitch. Then the rest should have a s;ightly mental lock about maybe
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Re: Yeah, Field Turf?!? « Reply #9 on Feb 23, 2009, 6:59am »
there is a home field advantage for every team when it comes to the pitch because even different natural turf fields play different and it takes 15-30 minutes for a team to make the adjustments to how the field plays
With the team playing it’s first game on the Quest Field pitch which is composed of fieldturf the teams coach Sigi Schmid was happy with the surface “The surface played really well. It’s for sure the best turf surface in the league,” Schmid said. “The surfaces in Toronto or Giants Stadium aren’t even close to comparable. This place is as close to grass as you can (get).”
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Re: Yeah, Field Turf?!? « Reply #11 on Feb 23, 2009, 1:14pm »
When it came out, I thought Field Turf was the greatest thing. Now I think this is the greatest thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD_GrassMaster) and hope the Seahawks FO can be convinced to go this way when the current Field Turf needs to be replaced.
It WAS in the Seahawks Stadium initiative that the stadium would be grass.
When it came out, I thought Field Turf was the greatest thing. Now I think this is the greatest thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD_GrassMaster) and hope the Seahawks FO can be convinced to go this way when the current Field Turf needs to be replaced.
It WAS in the Seahawks Stadium initiative that the stadium would be grass.
Yessir! This would be GREAT. However, I'm still a touch skeptical of the ability of a grass pitch to hold up in the PNW during the months of October and November, with both football and throwball teams playing on it.
Plus, it sounds like they've come up with a way to remove the throwball lines from the FieldTurf for SSFC matches; but is it just as easy with real grass? Or is the paint removal process to harsh on the grass?
Re: Yeah, Field Turf?!? « Reply #13 on Feb 23, 2009, 1:56pm »
I don't think Grassmaster is the way to go at all. It is not very durable and the NFL players clearly prefer the Seahawks surface to any of the Grassmaster surfaces. Here is a link that talks about some of the Grassmaster problems.
When it came out, I thought Field Turf was the greatest thing. Now I think this is the greatest thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD_GrassMaster) and hope the Seahawks FO can be convinced to go this way when the current Field Turf needs to be replaced.
It WAS in the Seahawks Stadium initiative that the stadium would be grass.
Yessir! This would be GREAT. However, I'm still a touch skeptical of the ability of a grass pitch to hold up in the PNW during the months of October and November, with both football and throwball teams playing on it.
Plus, it sounds like they've come up with a way to remove the throwball lines from the FieldTurf for SSFC matches; but is it just as easy with real grass? Or is the paint removal process to harsh on the grass?
I agree with grass being the ideal surface, and the dutch borne hybrid sounds interesting but the main point is the durability. if you notice around town all the pitches that are not a synthetic surface are sand. I believe that is due to drainage issues and grass growth. So all though not impossible, it seems that it is difficult to maintain a grass field that will see 2 major sports a weekend, all summer and in to the fall. add in the husky's when their stadium is being renovated (and it will happen sooner or later), and we might as well have sand.
on the other point i do believe that the grass throw ball lines at other fields get painted over for MLS, or at least it looks like they do (see Huston pitch), and the Field turf can be "cleaned" with chemicals (my guess is a solvent of sorts) and repainted for the respective sports. grass just doesn't like that many cleanings.
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